I Hate ADV films -_-

[AnimeFanatic]

Zinc-kun said:

Secondly, for your Evangelion thing, blame Hideaki Anno. If you're referencing to the film, End of Evangelion, blame all those fans who told him his original ending sucked.

You mean, he changed the ending from what it was in the manga !?!

[Konekone]

Evangelion was originally the anime first.

[animeninjaNIPPON]

I love ADV films. sorry, AnimeFanatic. but I do agree that some of their dubs aren't up to par *coughsakurawarscough*.

[AnimeFanatic]

Zinc-kun said:

Evangelion was originally the anime first.

Oh, then how was it "original"?

[Pinkechidna]

I think ADV does a great job.

They really try hard with Azumanga Daioh, keeping it as close to the original as they can. They even include a little booklet in the DVD to explain some of the cultural references and some translation issues.

[CosmicDebris]

"ADV Films" is a subtitle and dubbing studio (I think? I know it's a dubbing studio, but not sure about subtitles though).

Actually, ADV is NOT a dubbing studio. They are one of few companies at the time that do not have their own studio. They rely on other studios to do dubbing for them. I read this in a magazine that they sent to me as an incentive to subscribe. I'm not into subscribing to magazines, though. I imagine now that ADV has merged with Funimation and Geneon, their dubs will be very similar to those studio's dubs. Actually, if you look at the casting in their past releases, they already have been.
ADV is also the company that runs the Anime Network.

[animeninjaNIPPON]

that would explain why some of their dubs are...erm, "different" than other dubs bearing their logo. their subtitling is exellent, though.

[resurie]

AnimeFanatic said:

Oh, then how was it "original"?

I believe he was talking about the Director's Cut, when he said "original". Right, Zinc? 0_o

[AnimeFanatic]

CosmicDebris said:

Actually, ADV is NOT a dubbing studio.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Lovely]

As a side note: This post is SO not going to make me friends ^^;.

CosmicDebris said:

Actually, ADV is NOT a dubbing studio. They are one of few companies at the time that do not have their own studio. They rely on other studios to do dubbing for them. I read this in a magazine that they sent to me as an incentive to subscribe. I'm not into subscribing to magazines, though. I imagine now that ADV has merged with Funimation and Geneon, their dubs will be very similar to those studio's dubs. Actually, if you look at the casting in their past releases, they already have been.
ADV is also the company that runs the Anime Network.

Um... WOW that information is ....very much not correct. Sorry, I don't mean to sound so rude but...

Wow... where to start.

Well, first, YES ADV has their own dubbing studio. "Monster Island" And "ADV Films" (it's old name was "smoke and mirrors", or something like that I belive ). The "Monster Island" studio's have been recently closed, but the "ADV Films" is still alive and VERY kickin'. The studio reps and voice directors post on the AoD message boards rather frequently.

ADV was somewhat unique back in the day, because they were one of the few US anime releasing companies that dubbed their work "in house". Now a days, "Funimation" and and "Right Stuff" do their dubbing "in house" as well.
(In fact, since the Funimation and ADV dubbing studio's are both located in Texas. The two tend to 'share' voice actors sometimes.)

Companies like Bandai and Geneon still contract other studio's to do the dubbing for them, (Like Ocean or Animaze.)


ADV, Funimation and Geneon are working together on ONE project. They have officially announced this. They aren't actually merging together in other aspects.
The "project" turned out to be getting the Japanese to make a new series for them, or... something... the exact details are still a bit fuzzy.

ADV- Liscences anime, has recently begun helping with the FUNDING of new anime shows in Japan*, and they dub and subtitle in house. They also liscenced some asian live action stuff.

And yes, they own both The anime network, and NewtypeUSA.

*The funding thing. Geneon has been doing this lately too. And Bandai has been doing it for a good long while (hence the reason Bandai ALWAYS gets the gundams.)


Next Myth to debunk!

Zinc-kun said:

Evangelion was originally the anime first.

Not.... exactly...

The anime and the manga were actually planned out at the same time.
Anno had the anime as his baby.
Yoshiyui Sadamato was put in charge of the manga.

Sadamato is the original character designer by the way (I love, love, LOVE his art style.)

They BOTH worked on aspects of the original story concepts and design.
The thing is.... Anno went off his meds while working on Eva... He was suffering from VERY bad depression and... well... Evangelion got weird because of it.
I've never seen the WHOLE series due to the violence by the way.
Anyhoo~
This is why the two versions have such an oddly different feel to them.
I like Sadamato's characterisation a good deal better than Anno's. Shinji and ESPECIALLY Rei are just a good deal more likable.


Finally, Takato:
Hmmmm.... (thinking of a way to put this nicely)

I too don't have much money. But I don't download shows that are liscenced. I pay a small fee and rent all the anime dvds I want from Greencine. Greencine has a HUGE selection of COMPLETE series.
It's legal, and it makes you feel a lot better about yourself.

I'm just sayin' is all....

[AnimeFanatic]

Except for Vol. 3, I ve seen all of the episodes of Evangelion and "Death and Rebirth", along with some clips from "The End of Evangelion" (I'm gonna get "The End..." from my local library soon, though ^_^).

[Takato]

Lovely said:

As a side note: This post is SO not going to make me friends ^^;.
















They BOTH worked on aspects of the original story concepts and design.



Finally, Takato:
Hmmmm.... (thinking of a way to put this nicely)

I too don't have much money. But I don't download shows that are liscenced. I pay a small fee and rent all the anime dvds I want from Greencine. Greencine has a HUGE selection of COMPLETE series.
It's legal, and it makes you feel a lot better about yourself.

I'm just sayin' is all....

I would do the rental anime thing expect my parents probably wouldn't let me do it. I have a small measly allowance that I can only use to buy stuff like manga, books, and the occassional anime DVD once in a blue moon, or I have to wait until Christmas and my birthday to stock up. I was going to save up my allowance to buy the uncut Shaman King and Yugioh DVDs, since they were so cheap that I could actually afford them, but then 4Kids has to go and delay them, so I'm getting Shaman King through another method (if you get what I mean) until they release volume three.

It's been almost two years since I've started watching Shaman King and I still haven't gotten past episode six and I'd just like to see a little bit more of the show, so I don't feel like an outsider here. >< I used to burn most of the anime I got illegally to VCDs, but these days the only licensed anime I'm burning to CDs are my abosulete top five favorites. If I download any other licensed anime, I delete it after I finish watching it on the comp (I'm also doing that beause I'm starting to run out of space in my room to hold all of my CDs and DVDs ^^;; ).

[CosmicDebris]

Um... WOW that information is ....very much not correct. Sorry, I don't mean to sound so rude but...

It's ok, I don't find your post rude at all. We're talking about anime, not our personal lives. ^_^

Well, first, YES ADV has their own dubbing studio. "Monster Island" And "ADV Films" (it's old name was "smoke and mirrors", or something like that I belive ). The "Monster Island" studio's have been recently closed, but the "ADV Films" is still alive and VERY kickin'. The studio reps and voice directors post on the AoD message boards rather frequently.

I didn't mean that they aren't in control of the dubbing process, I mean they don't have an in-house studio. They're stationed in Iowa. They have no studio there.
Quote from the ADV magazine: "Unlike other companies, we don't have an in-house dubbing studio, which means we work with professionals in the field to get the recording done. "

ADV, Funimation and Geneon are working together on ONE project. They have officially announced this. They aren't actually merging together in other aspects.

Ah, ok. That's different from the impression I got from the article I read a while back.

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CosmicDebris said:

I didn't mean that they aren't in control of the dubbing process, I mean they don't have an in-house studio. They're stationed in Iowa. They have no studio there.

ADV IS headquarted in houstan. It says so, right here on their official webpage.
It's mentioned at the end.

CosmicDebris said:

Quote from the ADV magazine: "Unlike other companies, we don't have an in-house dubbing studio, which means we work with professionals in the field to get the recording done. "

WAHA! I figured it out! How old is your ADV magazine? AND is it a trade sort of mag?
I figured out what ADV is doing there, they are doing some "creative truth bending" . In other words, they are SORT of lying.
ADV owned two dubbing studios in Texas. Monster Island, and Industrial Smoke and Mirrors. Since it didn't OFFICALLY have the ADV name at the time, they could say it wasn't "in house." Even though they owned both studio's and the studio's only produced ADV dubs . HOWEVER! Recently...

ADV Consolidates Studios (2005-03-23 12:36:01)
ADV Films has closed their Monster Island dubbing studio and consolidated their recording projects under one studio name, "ADV Studios." ADV previously had two distinct recording studios, Monster Island in Austin and Industrial Smoke and Mirrors in Houston, employing as many as twelve or more ADR directors between them.

source

So in other words, when they closed Monster Island, they just decided to give up the charade and name the studio what it really is . They are being more honest now.

[Dessa]

Takato- Try your local library. At least for manga, you can usually request items, and they may order them.