Caracal
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Post by Caracal on May 10, 2005 16:04:05 GMT -5
They're airing more eps? Sweet. Good thing I'm having them recorded this time (I missed ep 53 and the others last time they were aired). Can't wait to see them next weekend.
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Rapid
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Post by Rapid on May 10, 2005 16:22:00 GMT -5
But amazed they showed the little bit of blood.If that was blood.The speech inside the gate bit creeped me out in fact the whole ep did for complelty no reason espically at the end and no clue why.Hmm What bit of blood? Yeah, it's kinda weird that they spend so many eps leading up to the Gate of Babylon, then it all screws up. ^^; I thought even originally they didn't do a very good job of explaining that Spirit of Fire ate Shamash... You just see Shamash's arm, then SoF eating a blacked-out silhouette. ^^; I didn't figure out that had happened until they mentioned it in the next episode preview....
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Rukato86
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Post by Rukato86 on May 10, 2005 17:09:12 GMT -5
This episode was truly worth the wait even with all the stupid 4shite's edits. Personally I loved the overall creepyness of it specially when they were all within the gate, but seriously the dub alterations were annoying the hell outta me, I mean for one of the probably more violent parts what did they do? prolong a shot of Ryu's pompodour wagging in the air with him crying "Lyserg, Lyserg" in the bg. I mean come on, what the hell? Also, I hate Denbat's dub voice, its like sandpaper on the ears, something very David Moo-ish.
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Rapid
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Post by Rapid on May 11, 2005 16:08:03 GMT -5
Now, I don't claim to be a Shaman King expert or anything, what with me lying some mid-way between a casual fan and a fanatic.
However, there were several things with the dub of ep 57 that severely disappointed me. -_-
Several nice/key things were rewritten severely.
One I hated the MOST:
Dub Meene is a complete BITCH to Lyserg. She's supposed to be the 'nice' one. Originally, she spoke in a way that implied she just didn't want Lyserg involved anymore, because she didn't want him to get dragged into any more trouble- she was telling him to leave the X-Laws, because she thought it would be better for HIM if he left.
In the dub, she just says that Lyserg is a disapponting X-Law and that the X-Laws don't need him anymore. She pretty much talks to him as though she's personally kicking him off the X-Laws for being crap. Also, her line about Lyserg being a kind child is cut completely. ><;
Chocolove's jokes. 'Tama tama (round balls) changed to "Are you OK?" "Yes, but your breath isn't".
"Kokkuri-sam/Tokkuri setaa" (Ouji board/Bottled up sweater) Changed to "The tortoise and the hare. The tortoise won by a NECK!"
Secondly, the incident with Goldva. Originally, she (he? It? XD) said that the Shaman Fight should carry on as normal, regardless of what happened. In the dub, Goldva quickly says they should track down Zeke and try to stop him. The funny bit about the gift shop sales is dropped. ><; The dub also keeps blabbing on saying that Nichrom and Zinc stole 'a data file' which they gave to Zeke.
On the Oracle Bell display, HoroHoro's name has been replaced with the word 'TREY'.
Originally, Mikihisa was stalling for time until Yoh got there. The dub changes this completely, and Zeke just says he has 'better things to attend to' and leaves.
Finally, another awful rewrite. Originally, Yoh said he was just 'taking a break' from the tournament. In the dub, he implies that he's simply dropping out completely. 0__o;
They say "Does this mean you're dropping out, too?" and he says "I don't have much choice".
...Oh, and they killed the Watermelon bit. XD
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Post by DarkMaster on May 12, 2005 7:23:43 GMT -5
The above post has most things that were changed but i have a few more.
They cut out the scene at the begginning where Hao picks up Opacho.
The dialogue with Peote was changed and also Peote was not singing about Zeke originally.
The dialogue between Hao and Mikihisa was changed.
A quick scene where Hao shoots fire at the Priests was also cut.
The scene with Anna & Morty, the dialogue was changed.
As said in the above post the watermelon scene was changed.
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Rapid
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Post by Rapid on May 12, 2005 7:33:12 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I forgot about the bit where Hao picked up Opacho. ^^ That was cute. Erm, WHY exactly does Hao have a soft spot for Opacho? She's clearly a weak little baby thing, and he usually wants weak people dead...
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YohWhatsUp
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Post by YohWhatsUp on May 12, 2005 9:18:49 GMT -5
they cut the Opacho on hao's shoulders bit?!Grrrrrr 4kids!!!
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Rapid
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Post by Rapid on May 12, 2005 16:02:03 GMT -5
Ep 58.
Hmm, OK. Better than 57 anyway.
At the beginning, they still talked as though Lyserg had been kicked off the X-Laws for being a disappointment.
Luckily, later when they meet up with him, they seem a bit more 'in character', as in, they don't want him involved because they don't want him to die.
Lyserg getting slapped/hit by Marco is cut.
Amazingly, they kept the deaths of the X-Laws pretty much intact... at least they kept Meene's bit about Lyserg being kind in this time.
There were quite a lot of minor rewrites, but nothing so major it really affected the overall plot (i.e., the way Zeke changed mediums is explained differently).
However, when Lyserg summons Morphene as an Angel, Marco was originally shocked/disgusted (well, I got the impression he was disgusted because it was like a 'fake angel'- but that might've just been a misunderstanding on my part).
In the dub, Marco and Jeanne say they were wrong for ever doubting Lyserg, and thank him for performing a miracle.
Of course, all the usual edits (Chuck's 'rattles', Lysergs' funnel, Meene's gun, etc) are all still there.
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Post by DarkMaster on May 12, 2005 16:24:05 GMT -5
The only thing i remember at the moment is that when Chloe was getting bigger her skin stayed pink, originally her skin was like a human's.
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Rapid
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Post by Rapid on May 13, 2005 15:52:23 GMT -5
Ep 59;
They cut the part where Ren started bleeding badly.
They also edited Luchist's gun (I don't know if they did this before, I ever noticed).
They don't mention that (forgot the name) Football guy was killed from too much furyoku.
Bason scream's Len's name, instead of Horohoro (was it him? I think...)
Zeke asks orty to JOIN him in the dub. 0__o; "As my mascot". Very mad indeed.
Opacho's voice still sounds too much like a boy to me. ><;
Also, was that the close-up shot of Lyserg's dead parents I saw when they had a quick flashback scene (that was cut from it's original ep, but I think they might've left it here).
I'm not sure on that one, but it *looked* like it to me.
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Post by DarkMaster on May 15, 2005 7:13:07 GMT -5
I hope they dont edit tonight's ep too much. Its going to be an interesting one.
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Caracal
Shaman in Training
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Post by Caracal on May 15, 2005 13:39:57 GMT -5
They've aired as far as ep 59 Wow... I wonder if they'll air all the remaining eps as well.
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YohWhatsUp
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Post by YohWhatsUp on May 15, 2005 15:32:37 GMT -5
they are wooo ! gahI hate the voice for the King of spirts.It makes it sound like a derlik from Dr Who
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Post by DarkMaster on May 15, 2005 15:47:59 GMT -5
It was a good episode, changed the dialogue to various bits as expected but they kept in the main scene where Zeke kills Yoh.
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YohWhatsUp
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Post by YohWhatsUp on May 15, 2005 15:50:59 GMT -5
yeh that was amazing and scary.I knew what happened and seen the clip so many times in AMV vids but it shocked me .And what shocked me more was they kepted it quiet!!!no voice overs from anyone which was wowe
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